Please note: The Week in Review is written by a staff member of the Illinois Senate Republican Caucus and approved by legislators. It is meant to provide constituents with information about legislative action and activities during the week.
This week, budget projections released by the Quinn Administration offer a grim preview of the state’s fiscal situation, though State Sen. Ron Sandack (R-Downers Grove) said that a Senate Republican plan could serve as a commonsense road map to financial recovery.
The need to address the state’s dire budget situation was further underscored by a new report released by the credit rating agency, Fitch Ratings. In a Jan. 5 report, Fitch emphasized the importance of reining in the state’s Medicaid and pension obligations, and pursuing long-term solutions to finance state government operations.
Illinois’ ongoing budget woes continue to be the preeminent issue facing state leaders. Sen. Sandack said that when the 2012 legislative session gets underway later this month, one issue is likely to overshadow all others: the continuously weak position of the Illinois state budget.
That was reinforced when the Governor's Office of Management and Budget on Jan. 3 released preliminary revenue and spending projections (and accompanying report) for the next three fiscal years. While Gov. Quinn isn't scheduled to deliver his formal budget address until February 22, the projections emphasize the severity of the financial challenges facing Illinois.
“With the budget outlook released this week, it seems that the governor finally recognizes Illinois has a spending problem,” Sen. Sandack said. “The state has over-committed and managed to over-tax, not to mention that pension and Medicaid costs are out-stripping inflation and crowding out room in the state budget for human services, education and other vital state services.”
For the coming fiscal year, the governor's office promised a tightly balanced budget that would spend $33.7 billion, based on $34.1 billion in projected revenues. That budget would keep spending slightly under revenues, allowing for a modest surplus to reduce the state's backlog of bills. But, achieving that goal will be far from easy.
“I’m pleased that the governor and his budget office is now beginning to recognize the severity of the problem by highlighting the very issues we sought to address last March,” Sen. Sandack said. “It is my hope that the governor is truly up to the challenge to correct these budget woes.”
The projections reinforce years of Senate Republican warnings that the state’s Democrat leaders have continued to spend well beyond the state’s means, digging Illinois into an almost insurmountable fiscal hole. In response, last March the Senate GOP released a detailed "Reality Check" budget proposal to balance the budget, eliminate the state's deficit, and phase out the Democrats' January 2011 tax increase. While Democrats rejected the Senate Republican plan last spring, Sen. Sandack said the road map of possible reductions could serve as a guide in 2012.
Echoing Senate GOP calls to draw the line on spending and eliminate non-essential state programs or services, the outline presented by the budget office indicated virtually all state spending must remain flat for the next three years. In order to achieve a balanced budget, there could be no increase in education, public safety, welfare or healthcare spending.
Still, there are achievable alternatives. The "Reality Check" plan offered by Senate Republicans last March contained a menu of more than $6.5 billion in spending cuts and revenue generators to bring the budget into line with available revenues before the temporary income tax increase is supposed to expire in three years.
However, keeping state spending static is easier said than done. In just one area of state spending, Medicaid, current projections show that Illinois would need to spend about $3 billion more next year just to keep its current level of services and prevent the existing backlog of bills from growing.
Medicaid costs have skyrocketed during the Quinn-Blagojevich years, growing by $4 billion in just eight years. The current year's budget pushes more than $2 billion in bills into the upcoming fiscal year and, even with that juggling of the books, the state will still end this budget year more than $500 million in the red, according to the governor's office figures.
Holding the state's healthcare spending flat for four years, as the governor suggests, will require taming the Medicaid monster. Senate Republicans outlined an extensive series of possible savings in the "Reality Check" plan. Just as Medicaid spending accounts for a major portion of the budget, large savings are also possible by trimming the program.
For example, it is estimated that simply aligning Illinois' generous Medicaid benefits to the national average would save $1.6 billion. Other savings could be achieved by increasing patient co-pays, rolling back eligibility at the higher income levels, establishing asset tests across the board and reviewing optional services not mandated by the federal government.
Quinn's latest budget outline would still leave the state more than $800 million in the red at the time the tax hike is supposed to end. But that is an improvement over the $3.4 billion annual hole ($14.6 billion cumulative) that was projected last March.
There were also signs that the governor's office may finally come to the table to negotiate genuine savings in the state's deeply-indebted pension systems. The governor has announced a work group to negotiate further reforms to the systems.
The governor's budget office plan also anticipates level funding for education through 2015. To achieve savings in education, Senate Republicans last year proposed reviewing all programs not related to basic education and mandated categorical grants, reforming the special education formula that benefits Chicago schools over other schools in the state and bringing under control the massive growth in the state's supplemental grants targeted to Chicago schools.
Other ideas Republicans put on the table last year included $90 million in savings by eliminating questionable programs and agencies, reducing costs in the state's employee health insurance program, further reforms of the state's workers' compensation system and eliminating non-essential programs and policies put into place under former Governor and convicted felon Rod Blagojevich.
Also this week, Gov. Quinn signed HB 3813 into law. The legislation sought to reform egregious pension abuses by top union officials. Sen. Sandack, a Senate chief co-sponsor of the repeal measure, said that he was pleased with the governor’s action.
“Gov. Quinn’s signature on this bill was needed in order to curb deliberate fraud and abuse by insiders who obtained undeserved benefits they should have never received,” Sen. Sandack said. “With this becoming law, I look forward to finally moving onto true landmark reforms to make the entire state pension systems financially sustainable rather than untenable financial burdens upon taxpayers.”
A new review released Jan. 5 by the Fitch Ratings agency highlights the importance of bringing the state’s spending in line with available revenues. According to the recent review, Fitch left Illinois' credit rating as the second worst in the nation. Only California has worse credit than Illinois.
The ratings agency gave the state an "A-minus" rating and included a "stable" outlook, meaning that it does not anticipate that the credit worthiness of the state will change in the near future.
The rating did come with a warning that if the state uses one-time revenues to increase permanent spending, or pushes off payments to balance its budget (which Illinois did this fiscal year to the tune of $2 billion), the state's credit could be downgraded.
The agency also warned that Illinois must get its financial act in order before the temporary income tax expires in 2015.
The rating agency noted that even with a 67 percent tax increase, Illinois will finish the current fiscal year with a $508 million deficit and although the state reduced its backlog of bills by about $1 billion last year, that progress will be more than offset this year when the state again pushes bills off into the next fiscal year.
The rating agency said Illinois must address its long-term pension liabilities and bring skyrocketing Medicaid expenditures under control. Fitch noted that state debt is above the national average and that Illinois' unemployment rate was 16 percent above the national rate in November.
“The status quo is not working for Illinois, and that has been evident time and time again,” Sen. Sandack said. “Our situation is a recipe for financial disaster, and everyone knows it. We have no other choice but to get serious and do something about it immediately.”
Jeffrey Crane
8:34 pm on Sunday, January 8, 2012
Ron Sandack's Quarterly Business Campaign Donations
Telling!!
http://www.dggab.com/content.php?393-First-Quarterly-Business-Donations-to-Ron-Sandack-s-Campaign
DG Guy
7:47 am on Monday, January 9, 2012
What does your link have to do with the article?
Barry Allen
10:02 am on Monday, January 9, 2012
DG Guy,
Mr. Crane probably won't reply so maybe I can help. The Jeffery Crane household has made contributions totaling $2,500.00 to Ron Sandack's opponent. ($2000 by Jeffery and $500 by Melanie). This is an amount considerably larger than any of the donations listed in the link he has supplied.
As a result (to help preserve his investment) he has begun placing messages like the one in patch comments sections (with the obvious implication that Mr. Sandack has done something wrong).
As for my full disclosure: I have given NOTHING to either candidate, so, I am (by implication) expecting no favors from either candidate.
Jeffrey Crane
9:06 pm on Sunday, January 8, 2012
“With the budget outlook released this week, it seems that the governor finally recognizes Illinois has a spending problem,” Sen. Sandack said.
You are joking right? Am I the only one perplexed by this statement. I know that the Senator isn't that nieve. Our governor concerned about spending? Surely you jest.
Patrick Murphy
9:55 pm on Monday, January 9, 2012
Was he not simply quoting a statement the governor made and doing so in a respectful and bipartisan manner? Kind of new to the Patch but I have to say that right away and quite regularly since, I've seen you take every opportunity to jump on the freshman senator almost regardless of the article's content. I'm sorry, but it leads me to ask , " Do you have a personal issue with the senator? Or is it really just his politics?" With all the opportunities you've taken to pretty much slam the man regardless of what side of any issue he's on you must know your own credibility is going to take a hit. Just sharing perceptions sir.
PAUL C.
5:45 am on Monday, January 9, 2012
Facts are facts!
Jeffrey Crane
7:26 am on Monday, January 9, 2012
This company made a sizable donation to Ron Sandack's campaign. You must ask yourself why and determine why the senator chose to accept the generous donation. Read the article below and make your determination. Are they trying to influence the freshman's vote in possible future legislation?? More of the same!!!!!!!
http://www.dggab.com/content.php?395-Illinois-Senate-Fails-to-Pass-Taylorville-Energy-Center-Legislation-01-12-11
PAUL C.
8:22 am on Monday, January 9, 2012
Wake up District 81 Voters! On March 20th, are you going to vote for this guy?
Melanie C
10:39 am on Monday, January 9, 2012
Mr. Allen,
Allow me to introduce myself. I am the Melanie you refer to in your comment. Let me start by assuring you and everyone who cares, that my husband and I have absolutely no desire to receive any perks or favors for our contributions. Actually the exact opposite would hold true. We have discovered in the past year that there is a gigantic web of cronyism in this great town. We have experienced, first hand, what contributions have bought for certain individuals. This is the reason why we have become involved so passionately. This type of behavior is no longer acceptable. Hopefully, we can start weeding out the corruption that is so deep rooted in our state by starting out at our local level of politics. I can honestly promise that we would NEVER use any contributions that we have or will make in order to receive special treatment of any kind. If you should see that we have lied, than please notify us and everyone else for that matter. I am certain that you will not find anything of the sort.
Have a great day!
Lee
11:12 am on Tuesday, January 10, 2012
You keep lying about your motivation to support Debbie Boyle.
Don Jankowski
11:02 am on Monday, January 9, 2012
Messrs Crane and C.: Could you explain the $5000 contribution that your candidate received from the Illinois Liberty PAC? Significant funding for that PAC comes from the Chairman of Tellabs, Road Ranger (convenience store and gas station chain in Midwest), and other not so visible sources. Does that mean that Tellabs and Road Ranger are "trying to influence (your candidate's) vote in possible future legislation?" (your words Mr. Crane) Do us a favor -- stop the silly bashing and stick with the thread. Or at least tell the whole story. Both candidates are receiving contributions from corporations, whether directly or disguised through a PAC. There is no smoking gun there (unless you are smoking something).
Dan F.
10:59 pm on Monday, January 9, 2012
Attack the messengers. Attack the messengers. Attack the messengers. You guys really hop to it when Ronny boy snaps his fingers. "He'll be so proud of me!"
Mr. Crane, don't bother giving any of these witless knuckleheads the time of day.
Sandack has a voting record. It sucks. He's a tax and spender without peer. You guys like that. Mr. Crane has pointed that out in exact detail and footnoted it all along the way.
Sandack's response? Have you fools go on the attack. Pathetic. It's his record. Sandack has already sold out every Republican value, and the clown posse still adores him.
Wow.
Jeffrey Crane
11:53 am on Monday, January 9, 2012
I have and will always reply to all bloggers. This is obvious. So, actually I have given $3500 to this candidate, full disclosure. I am a taxpayer and concerned citizen who is passionate about promoting real change in government. Deb Boyle, as I am sure you will admit, is at a slight disadvantage to the contacts and cronies the Senator has in his back pocket. I encourage all dialog and discussion of the candidates. Feel free to continue to debate the issue.
PAUL C.
2:04 pm on Monday, January 9, 2012
I live in the historic Puffer area. Henry also has a grave site in the esteemed Downers Grove cemetery. So What! Facts are facts and Ron's voting record is something I could never agree with! This election is about who will serve OUR interests as Illinois State Rep and not about the drama in the esteemed Prince district. You all need to get over yourselves and look at the voting record.
PAUL C.
3:00 pm on Monday, January 9, 2012
Double Wow TCB and I have a big big issue with that Death Penalty vote last year! He ignored us totally and voted "yes" to repeal while his 2 fellow Republican senators voted "no". Their names are Brady and Dillard. One was the Republican nominee and the other the runner up for Govenor. Enough said!
Frank N. Claro
3:28 pm on Monday, January 9, 2012
Jeffrey,
The only one who should be ashamed is you. You lead the comments by calling out donations made to Sandack's campaign. You then imply those donations influenced him.
Yet, the facts show just the opposite. Mr.Sandack voted AGAINST the donors' interests! He was NOT influenced. You left out that part, which is why YOU should be ashamed.
Seeing that you believe donations are for buying off politicians. It makes sense why you conveniently leave out your own attempt to donate to his campaign. What were you trying to buy? Once again, it is you who should be shamed.
Jeffrey Crane
6:34 pm on Monday, January 9, 2012
I did not say the donations influenced him, yet. I really question the motive of a company outside Illinois making the donation and then the candidate accepting it. There is a big distinction. Please then, if I am erroneous in my concern, why this donation would be made in the first place?
PAUL C.
3:35 pm on Monday, January 9, 2012
Tax and Spend.....read the facts Frank!
PAUL C.
3:38 pm on Monday, January 9, 2012
DG Bulletin Board System - Ron Sandack's Downers Grove Village Council Voting Record
www.dggab.com
Hardwood Floors
3:47 pm on Monday, January 9, 2012
Frank,
I could have said it better myself!
Patty H.
3:49 pm on Monday, January 9, 2012
Professor Jeff Crane: Death Penalty/Civil Union supporter or Ron hater? Based upon the tone of his learned discourse in Politics 101-102, it’s clear to the graduate students he’s just a Ron hater. Yet he’s clearly not the run of the mill “you knocked Brian out of office in 2007 by beating him 2 to 1 so it’s payback time" hater, it’s has a fresher feel to it. So Professor Jeff, do you want to share with the class the true foundation for your personal problem and the timeline for same? I think not.
You may wish to remind those that are just auditing your class that you offered Ron your support less that a year ago. “You have been doing such a great job as Mayor of our fine community and now as an Illinois Senator” you said. “Melanie and I would like to support you in any way we can” you said. Whereas Ron’s votes on civil unions and the death penalty both predate your pledges of support, you seemingly approved of him and his voting record until he dismissed your law suit. Maybe next semester you should teach a class on Hypocrisy instead…
Melanie C
4:47 pm on Monday, January 9, 2012
Patty H,
Do you ask others here which hater they are when they speak of Mr. Sandack?? Is it Jeff Crane that you are attacking for his providing facts with some of his opinions. Again, as I stated in my response to Mr. Claro, we found Ron to be a decent politician until we got to know the REAL him. Things change Patty. Wow, this email has made it's appearance at such an opportune time. LOL maybe my emails from Ron will add a little fun to this mud slinging contest. Thanks for joining in Patty:)
Jeffrey Crane
6:59 pm on Monday, January 9, 2012
Actually I am not a Ron hater, I just do not think his votes in the Senate represent my values as a Illinois citizen. I do not believe a sitting Senator should support his friends and supporters harassing and accosting people and enabling them by defending their actions in a court room. If you know anything about TRO's, a judge will not even hear the case unless he thinks it has merit. The judge would not grant Sandack dismissal with prejudice which means the judge left it open to additional proceedings if we would choose to proceed. We have better things to do than to deal with such asinine events.
Hardwood Floors
3:50 pm on Monday, January 9, 2012
Paul C.,
Give it up on the dggab.com. There are enough misconceptions here on this blog from Jeffrey Crane and his associates.
Melanie C
4:50 pm on Monday, January 9, 2012
Hardwood floors,
Nice of you to join us all here at the patch. Perhaps you could be proud of your comments and information and attach your real name. Jeff Crane has put his name out there and has nothing to hide. He will explain anything and everything if it is requested. Can you say the same about your friends and yourself?????
Have a great night HARDWOOD FLOORS
PAUL C.
3:54 pm on Monday, January 9, 2012
The voting record is factual my hardwood friend! Facts are facts and how Mr. Ron Sandack voted is a fact. Can you dispute that or his Death Penalty vote?
PAUL C.
3:57 pm on Monday, January 9, 2012
Also Mr. Hardwood, we'll continue to spread the VOTING RECORD so you'll have to deal with the TRANSPARENCY.
Hardwood Floors
4:10 pm on Monday, January 9, 2012
I see the "TRANSPARENCY" of you.
PAUL C.
4:17 pm on Monday, January 9, 2012
Stop trying to sand and finish me! You can't and you won't. I am like Chuckie and you can't stop me! A little fun to cool you down friend because that Death Penalty vote like a bad cold won't go away!
Hardwood Floors
4:23 pm on Monday, January 9, 2012
Who said I was trying to finish you? Who is my friend? There is plenty of time in this marathon.
AC
4:27 pm on Monday, January 9, 2012
Please look at all the facts.
Ron it don't look like you have the followers from your days as Mayor.
A close family friend from Indian Head Park just lost her daughter to a MONSTER and because our your vote he won't be put to DEATH.
That makes me SICK.
I hope you think about that everyday.
My vote goes to DEB BOYLE on MAR 20th.
Patrick Murphy
11:52 pm on Monday, January 9, 2012
Sorry but your post would imply that Mr. Sandack is responsible for that beautiful little girls murder. The death penalty as it was previously, was proven over time to be a non deterent. And it would remain that way as long as the federal guidelines and appeals processes are in place. Sometimes lawmakers have to set aside their own would be vengeance ( if they should possess it ) and act fiscally responsible. It cost's less to house and feed more than ten prisoners for life than it costs to execute one. ( I may be a little off with that statistic because as you know, 87.6% of all statistics are made up on the spot.) But I'm close. Mentally ill people rarely get put to sleep as well and that sick and deranged man would have never seen the gallows even if the death penalty were in place. I too happen to lean towards vengeance when I hear of an especially heinous act perpetrated on an innocent much less a young innocent but let us not forget all those exonerated from time to time. Most recently the guy from Waukegan last week who was released after almost 20 years for crime that he now appears to be innocent of.
PAUL C.
4:31 pm on Monday, January 9, 2012
It is a marathon and the voting record will withstand any attack by you because it is factual!
Tom Cawthorne
5:06 pm on Monday, January 9, 2012
Paul, you quoted Ron in an early post about being a career politician. Your quote was totally out of context. BK created a HUGE warchest and even hinted at creating a strong Mayor form of government. That is what a career politician does. Ron's track record and advocacy for term limits is proof that he is not looking to be an entrenched member of any governmental body.
Tom Cawthorne
5:08 pm on Monday, January 9, 2012
At least he HAS a voting record and has openly explained it. Can you same the same of Ms. Boyle? Furthermore, he has a long history of promoting change and lean government. Once again, can you lead me to a blog that shows me what initiatives Ms. Boyle has introduced in her short term on the school board? Paul was an open supporter of BK in the 2007 mayoral election. I need to remind Paul and others about some of those issues that were forefront at that time:
STORMWATER..... Ron made no secret when running for mayor that difficult choices had to be made about stormwater and infrastructure needs. Well, those choices were made and large capital expenditures had to occur to address a problem that had been ignored for years. Tax and Spend? guilty. Was it the right thing to do? Absolutely. A continuing plan is in place and is moving along.
ETHICS REFORM..Ron spearheaded a robust plan that removed the cloud over our elected officials by eliminating vendor contributions to elected village officials and staff. Now, a sitting mayor can't amass a huge warchest. Nor, can they ever be influenced financially in their decisions. Furthermore, he championed term limits (after asking the public in a non-binding referendum).
Dan F.
10:56 pm on Monday, January 9, 2012
Nicolay & Dart LLC 3 N Deadborn Street
Suite 2200
Chicago, IL 60602 $500.00
9/29/2011 Individual Contribution
Citizens to Elect Ron Sandack
Say, Mr. Cawthorne, Isn't that the lobbyist Ron Sandack hired when he was mayor?
Why, yes! Yes it is!
PAUL C.
4:34 pm on Monday, January 9, 2012
That Death Penalty vote will not go away and we'll make sure it doesn't! This I guarantee personally.
Hardwood Floors
4:42 pm on Monday, January 9, 2012
Who is "we'? You and Jeffrey Crane? Maybe you can put a sign out in front of your home. I am sure your neighbors would love that.
Jeffrey Crane
7:07 pm on Monday, January 9, 2012
Well if that statement doesn't say it all. Next can I expect a burning crucifix in my front yard. Ron, where are you? Do you support this? Can I put a Deb Boyle sign in my front yard? I want to hear him say that we can support whoever we want as a right in the USA. Ron, I know you read these blogs, can you speak to this? Senator?.
PAUL C.
4:51 pm on Monday, January 9, 2012
Hardwood,
I assure that there is a grassroots army! I will have a Deb Boyle sign in front of my home as will many others in Downers Grove, Woodridge, Darien, Naperville and Westmont. Just to let you know, more people outside of the Prince and Pierce Downer neighborhoods are eligible to vote in this race! It's called District 81 in case you were not aware.
PAUL C.
4:57 pm on Monday, January 9, 2012
Patty H.
Just like many people in Downers Grove, the Crane's have seen the real Ron and are not followers any longer. People do have the right to change their minds. It seems Ron did. He stated in the DGreport.com on March 26th, 2010 that he was not a "career politican" and just wanted to serve DG as mayor. So if politicians can change their minds, why can't citizens.
AC
5:35 pm on Monday, January 9, 2012
Thomas,
Just to clear the air. Jeffrey Crane buying a piece of property to create more yard space for his family makes him a bad guy?
What a bunch of cry baby selfish neighbors.
I'm glad I leave in Bellaire Estates and we luckily have big lots.
My children really enjoy our swingset.
Is Prince street in the process of being changed to Whistia Lane.
I feel like the Prince of Belleaire in the privacy of my backyard.
Doesn't Jeff and his family deserve the same?
Patrick Murphy
12:09 am on Tuesday, January 10, 2012
AC, If I chose to do something way out of the ordinary next to your home you would change your tune. After reading all these posts and the links my earlier question in the first post has been answered. After reading all the letters for and against regarding the lot behind separated by utility easement it's clear there was no witch hunt. Every letter against was from a neighbor very much nearby and every letter for was from a non neighbor pretty far away. That would be like me saying Good Samaritan Hospital should be able to construct an out door theater behind them. No impact on me, I live way over here and I love outdoor theaters. :) I think we all have to agree those distant pro contributions were a joke.
I considered doing exactly the same thing with an available lot right behind me on Saratoga years ago, after visiting code enforcement I was told to not bother and understood the reasoning behind it. I moved on.
Everyone deserves the same, there are many bigger lots available, people move up and downsize all the time.
Frank N. Claro
6:08 pm on Monday, January 9, 2012
Clearly, all of you put the "idiot" in the well known term of "Village Idiot." I'm "ashamed" I share boundaries with any of you here.
Paul C...my battery is running out. You do deserve a response. ;)
PAUL C.
6:10 pm on Monday, January 9, 2012
Thomas,
In case you don't know B.K. is not in this race so stop living way in the past! Facts are facts and that like Chuckie needs no batteries Frank. Can you guys address the Death Penalty for Senator Sandack? Seems he voted opposite Senator Brady and Dillard. You both know them don't you?
Tom Cawthorne
6:29 pm on Monday, January 9, 2012
Are you that naive to believe that BK had NOTHING to do with Deb entering the race? Let's see.... all of her fundraisers were attended by him. His own campaign manager Cicero Dan Proft allocated funds from his PAC to Deb's campaign. His own organization not only distributed her petitions, but they also put up a link for you to print a petition on their website.
PAUL C.
6:13 pm on Monday, January 9, 2012
No answers Thomas for AC?
PAUL C.
6:28 pm on Monday, January 9, 2012
I support the death penalty for the most heinous criminals
Illinois prosecutors and Illinois juries need the death penalty as an option, especially in the most heinous of criminal cases.
As your Illinois state representative I will vote to restore the death penalty to Illinois and I would not have voted as my opponent did last spring when he stripped away an important tool from our law enforcement agencies.
Debbie Boyle's position from Where I Stand www.downersgrovepatch.com
Jeffrey Crane
6:28 pm on Monday, January 9, 2012
So according to Mr. Cawthorne, I do not have the right to purchase a property and I don't gave a right to campaign against someone running for office. If you are really interested in being objective and obtaining the truth, you know where to find me, pal.
Jeffrey Crane
6:30 pm on Monday, January 9, 2012
Oh and I commend you for providing the link so that all of DG can see how mean spirited those people are. As you say let others be the judge. :).
Tom Cawthorne
6:39 pm on Monday, January 9, 2012
I'm sorry for AC's friend's loss. It is tragic. However, would the death penalty prevented that? Furthermore, the system has proven in the past that it has failed. Innocent people were sentenced to Death Row. Ron is not anti-death penalty (despite the opposition's, your's and Crane's acqusations). He was just against that particular bill. In fact, he has introduced legislation that includes the death penalty for the most obvious and heinous crimes (think John Gacy).
Once again, I repeat. At least Ron has a voting record and is always willing to explain why he voted that way. Can't say the same for his opponent.
PAUL C.
6:46 pm on Monday, January 9, 2012
Cronin's guy as appointed senator, Ron will have to run this time and yes his record will be transparent. You can talk about the past and use terms like Cicero Dan but you can't change his voting record and as I keep saying that Death Penalty vote is one I personally cannot agree with and I know I am not alone. Ask AC how he feels about that vote from our appointed senator. There will be no appointments this time and Ron who has the power of Chairman Cronin behind him, is probably quite confident he'll win this race for District 81 Illinois State Reprensentative easily. It's good to have a record when people agree with the record. Commissioner to Mayor to Senator now wanting to be Illinois State Rep is quite a resume. The question the voters will ask is Ron in this for Ron or will Ron represent me? The voting record is factual. The voters will decide on March 20th and I am quite sure the turnout will be higher the 19% since we'll be voting in the primary for president also. Remember it's a marathon and I'll continually spread the word on his voting record. You refuse to even address the Death Penalty vote issue because you have no answers for it and I am sure the Senator will downplay it. Ask AC's family friends in Indianhead Park how they feel.
AC
7:09 pm on Monday, January 9, 2012
Thomas,
Technology has come along way in regards to mistakes made against the innocent.
DNA has cleared many of those convicted killers.
Doing research on how far we have come over the years just makes it tough to understand why anyone in power would vote to eliminate the death penalty.
My friend who lost her daughter wouldn't have been saved but now to think we will pay to keep this MONSTER alive doesn't sit well with me and many others.
How would you feel being sent text messages from your daughters phone from the killer the day after?
We all have to be responsible for our actions and Ron has to live with these crimes everytime they happen.
That isn't justice.
A place to live and eat for the rest of your live on the taxpayers dime.
Lee
8:27 pm on Monday, January 9, 2012
AC - You want the same ilk as Ron Blago, George Ryan and others in Springfield making decisions concerning the death penalty? The fact is one can "support" the death penalty and realize that the way its set up in this state might need some additional review. I for one am glad we have someone like Ron Sandack who, although he believes in something, might figure the current purveyors of justice might need actual lessons on the word "justice" themselves.
As far as the other "personal" items go. I agree with a lot of what Mr. Crane has stated in his Politics 101 and 102 missives, however, it's unfortunate his motivation (by name of his missives primarily) is to mock someone who is doing their best to inform the populous through transparency in meeting with his constituents as was the case with Mr. Sandack's Politics 101 Town Hall.
PAUL C.
8:48 pm on Monday, January 9, 2012
Lee,
One big difference that you failed to mention and that is Senators Dillard and Brady voted the conscience of the voters who elected them. Ron though not elected should have found out what the citizens in Lombard and Downers Grove favored and believed in. Very hard for me to believe the people living in Ron's district are much different in conscience than Dillard's. Both districts are heavily Republican and conservative. Maybe Ron thought he knew what was best for his district without reaching out to find out. Senators who SERVE their districts KNOW how the voters in that district feel about important issues. This was and remains a very important issue!
Don Jankowski
8:54 pm on Monday, January 9, 2012
Where is the editor on this string? You may need to ask EJ for advice, as the discussion is uncivil. Figure out how to make the Hatfields amd McCoys stand down. Being a journalist is about relevance and courage, and the Patch is demonstrating neither This string is all "Maury Povich.". EJ was a journalist and did not let that happen. I hope AOL wants to be relevant.
Scott Theisen
9:09 pm on Monday, January 9, 2012
Paul C, you make so many false assumptions. You have no idea what "conservative" voters think. You fall in line and nod your head. The death penalty is no deterrent, and knowing what I know about the inadequacies and failings of government...they have murdered innocents with this law.
I love when big government hypocrites like you put down the power of the state...except when it suits you.
Jeffrey Crane
9:12 pm on Monday, January 9, 2012
Personally, I welcome peoples opinions. Those that support Ron are very passionate about it. I am very passionate myself and I believe the Senator/Ron is not my guy. So I will place my vote and you will place yours. If he is the victor, so be it. I believe that with that victory will come more of the same and even tougher times for Illinoisans. Time will tell, it always does. I hope I am wrong. Are you so sure you are right?
PAUL C.
9:13 pm on Monday, January 9, 2012
The Death Penalty vote is an issue I cannot and will not agree with period. If BK hypothetically was my appointed senator and voted "yes" to repeal, I'd be even more upset. I know I am in the majority on this and it is a vote that Ron will have to explain on the campaign trail, twitter, email, FB etc. Even the Cook County States Attorney, Anita Alvarez is pro death penalty! There is no grey area and research the vote on this and see how many Republicans voted "yes" to repeal. You all already know about Brady and Dillard.
Lee
9:23 pm on Monday, January 9, 2012
Paul C - Who cares how others voted? So Ron has to check with Dillard (not a conservative voting record AT ALL) and Brady (lost to a weak Quinn in 2010) about how he should vote on the Death Penalty? Maybe given the times, with Springfield haven proven itself unfit to simply balance their check book let alone dispense DEATH to wrongly convicted people, to continue with a moratorium on this practice. Per your "conservative" litmus test, shouldn't folks regardless of where they come down on the Death Penalty issues should air on the side of "life"... Kudos to Ron for knowing the system is broken with the current stewards (Quinn, Cullerton and Madiagan) in place knowing they're not ready to dispense the ultimate justice...
PAUL C.
9:24 pm on Monday, January 9, 2012
Scott,
Big government? Who is Ron's Appointer? The vote was 60-54 to repeal in a Democratic Senate majority and Dem Governed. I suggest Scott that you take a close look at the vote on this issue and let us all know how the vote shook out between Dems and Reps. I think you might not be responding to me tonight.
Frank N. Claro
9:41 pm on Monday, January 9, 2012
Paul
You asked me to comment on the death penalty & “tax & spend.” I am no expert; nor, can I speak for Sandack but I’ll happily give you my opinions.
The IHP murder was gruesome. The offender deserves the most severe punishment known on the planet. In fact, I’d like to take care of him myself. Sadly, nothing in IL is that easy. Since ‘77 only 12 people were executed in Illinois; yet, each year IL spent nearly 9 figures to prosecute, defend & appeal death penalty cases. During the same time, IL released more people (20) from death row than it executed. Who were these people? They were INNOCENT!
The bottom-line…our criminal justice system is terribly broken. Just like much everything else in this state. Murders aren’t going free because there is no death penalty. Research clearly shows the death penalty has no affect on crime. It’s an act of vengeance. Although I am not “above” revenge, I am against it within a state that’s proven to be economically, socially and procedurally bankrupt.
Sandack made a brave, bold & difficult decision; one which made perfect sense within the context of this state’s historical & current environment. It’s refreshing to see a vote based on thought rather than ol’ boy party-line thinking. Based on the IL landscape, I personally agree w his decision.
I will follow-up on your tax-spend comment.
PAUL C.
9:43 pm on Monday, January 9, 2012
March 20th is the day! A marathon not a sprint this important race for Illinois State Representative will be. I think it is great that 60 plus comments were made today and there's still 70 days till the election! I like to see a 35% voter turnout minimum and more people login on the patch and get involved. I think all of us agree that the Voter Apathy is something we'd all like to see go away. Realistically, we had a 19% eligible voter turnout for the spring election for mayor and commissioners! I think we all agree that it is a apathetic number. I will base my opinions on facts and voting records and will add a little humor (Chuckie). I really think what happened between the Crane's and the rest of the neighborhood has no place on this site. Issues, voting records and where candidates stand are what's important to me. Let's be civil folks and I promise to end the "career politican" right now. Good night and remember we all live in a great place, Downers Grove.
PAUL C.
9:48 pm on Monday, January 9, 2012
Frank,
We can agree to disagree. Remember Senators "represent" not free lance. I do think this will be a bigger campaign issue than you might care to think.
Frank N. Claro
9:56 pm on Monday, January 9, 2012
Paul,
Unless I’ve been transported to an alternate universe, the Ron Sandack I’ve witnessed is the antithesis of tax & spend. I would call him the cut & balance candidate. As Mayor, didn’t he lead a significant charge of cutting staff by nearly 15% and an operating budget by 10 percent? I don’t know about you, but I certainly didn’t lose any village services during those cost cutting – and in my opinion – very necessary cuts.
Once again, maybe I overslept on a key date during legislation, but did he not vote against the state tax hike; refuse to take a state pension & state health care; AND file a bill to rid legislators of future pensions? I think he also co sponsored a bill to curb unions abuse with pensions.
Paul, please think about what you’re hearing and repeating. Please compare the non-sense you’re being fed to the facts. If you don’t take that bit of responsibility, you come off like a bitter, personal-vendetta driven individual like the Cranes. You can do better!
Dan F.
11:19 pm on Monday, January 9, 2012
12/21/2004- Voted YES as Council Commissioner in favor of an 9% increase in Aggregate Tax Levy. The Mayor at the time said “He doesn’t believe the residents have received a 9% increase on their salaries.” Sandack seconded and voted for the 9% increase. “Not to pass this would be irresponsible in his opinion. They have Home Rules Sale Tax that will sunset by its own terms relatively soon. He has no intent to resurrect that tax.”
3/7/2006- Voted YES to resurrect the .5% Home Rule sales tax."
12/18/2007- Voted YES to raise HR sales tax from .5% to .75%. Said if new funds were to become available, he agrees that the tax increases would have to be revisited.
12/18/2007- Voted YES to raise local portion of telecommunications tax from 5% to 6%, hoping to add $410,000 in 2008 and $820,000 in 2009 to resident's tax burden. “Mayor Sandack said that this is the highest amount that can be taxed.”
12/15/2009 Votes YES to increase Home Rule sales tax from .75% to 1%."
The first year post Mayor Sandack, Mayor Tully will reduce property taxes by $14 on the average household."
That's just a bit if the tax and spend stuff Mr. Crane has documented, and now is being attacked for.
Just, wow.
PAUL C.
10:08 pm on Monday, January 9, 2012
DG Bulletin Board System - Ron Sandack's Downers Grove Village Council Voting Record
www.dggab.com
Frank,
These votes are not figments of my imagination! Read again, December 2010 and April 2011: 3 Yes Votes as mayor. Take a close look friend. I have and don't like it one bit as a tax paying citizen and voter. You spew what you want but give be specific votes to back it up sir. Finally, Good night!
PAUL C.
10:18 pm on Monday, January 9, 2012
Cook County State’s Attorney Anita Alvarez issued a statement decrying the vote.
“As a career prosecutor, I believe that the death penalty should be available as a deterrent to violent crime in the most heinous of cases, particularly at a time when we have witnessed outrageous crimes such as the senseless murder of five Chicago Police officers this past year,” she said.
This is from the 2nd largest county state's attorney in the USA. She knows just a little about the subject.
PAUL C.
10:21 pm on Monday, January 9, 2012
I just needed to put that out there and I am sure the Dupage County State's attorney has the same belief and he's a Republican.
Scott Theisen
10:24 pm on Monday, January 9, 2012
Paul C... You really want some mythical, cold, robotic politician to follow your rules...and some supposed standard of "conservatism". Never follow the dictates of their conscience or the teachings of their religion? Can't remember where it was that the big man told us that murder is ok when done by Government. Maybe you could search for that passage?
No...you're content to accept blindly the force of big government plunder our rights, and pockets when you like it.
Just as I suspected, you walk a line with blinders on. I would encourage you to enrich your mind with the wisdom of our founders.
"All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent." Thomas Jefferson
PAUL C.
10:37 pm on Monday, January 9, 2012
Scott,
You know nothing about me as I know nothing about you so get off your soapbox. I am and will continue to be pro-death penalty. I have been since I started voting at 18 years old. I hide behind nothing. Ron knows me as do many of his supporters. Good night and don't get ahead of yourself. I'll be around through March 20th. We know Ron has Cronin backing him and is the big favorite but we also know that the facts are hard to suppress and voting records are facts. You may be a pro-repealer but what matters is what the voters think. Again, I know how AC feels and my guess is a lot of voters feel likewise. March 20th will tell and I want my Rep to rep my and the citizens interests period. If Ron wins, I will communicate with him to hear my concerns and views. Represent is what a Representative does.
Scott Theisen
10:38 pm on Monday, January 9, 2012
Th village appointed me to that VOLUNTEER position. Trying to help you and our village out. How h e you participated ?
Jeffrey Crane
10:40 pm on Monday, January 9, 2012
I commend you on volunteering. Stop telling. I want to be on that committee with you. Will you recommend me? The village is an entity, a person in the village appoints or recommends. Who recommended you?
Scott Theisen
10:42 pm on Monday, January 9, 2012
You want to be on that committee contact the Village. It's truly that simple. Raise your hand.
Jeffrey Crane
10:52 pm on Monday, January 9, 2012
What lawsuit? I'm afraid I do not know what it is you are referring to. If you see me at the train, feel free to stop by and listen to the truth. You will be shocked and dismayed. I would rather spend money in more productive ways than installing cameras. It is for our protection and considering a house was broken into two blocks west of us, I am glad we did it.
Lee
11:01 pm on Monday, January 9, 2012
Hi Jeffrey - Here's the lawsuit I'm referring to. You preach about character, associations and the like, yet can't comment on Mrs. Boyle using her pedigree and name to try and bully our school district and WASTING thousand of tax payer dollars on a frivolous lawsuit against District 99?
http://www.mysuburbanlife.com/bolingbrook/opinions/letters_to_the_editor/x719055316
Please comment on why you'd donate $3,500 and associate with such a person...
Dan Slayden
2:09 pm on Tuesday, January 10, 2012
this is really interesting. Someone using a fake name to blog comes up with an issue from many years go that has been blogged to death. Please Lee, understand the issue. District 99 allowed numerous employees to transfer their Children to the School they worked for. If you read the case, they even allowed it for a secretary at DGN who lived within the boundaries of DGS. Before Deb, they had never turned down any such request. Her brother and father coached football at North and her son wanted to play for them. How downright terrible! I am sure you followed the BOE after Deb was elected. Maybe you or a friend were on that board (wink, wink). Her request was denied because members of the 99 BOE did not like her. She was elected, even though people know about this lawsuit. In the recent election, the voters made the old majority a minority. This is a non-issue. Read the entire case file in Wheaton. Really, haven't you gotten passed this yet?
Lee
3:14 pm on Tuesday, January 10, 2012
Hi Dan - Lee Andreatta is my real name as many on this blog can verify. I actually posted my address as well before as well but it was deleted by the moderator. I understand the issue quite well. Debbie Boyle due to her birth name is a privileged class in Downers Grove. Because of this her son was "entitled" to attend any school that he wished regardless of what the school board thought. When she didn't get her way, she sued. That's it. It may be old, but it says a lot about her given there's not much public record except a scorned woman lashing out with a lawsuit when she didn't get her way...
Dan F.
6:48 pm on Tuesday, January 10, 2012
Deb Boyle sued for the right to school choice? Another reason to like her! School choice is supported by all kinds of Republicans AND Democrats- Rev Ralph Meeks, Mike Connelly, a bunch of folks voted for that just last year it was all over the news. If she was fighting for our right to choose AMEN SISTER!!
Hey check two letters down. Even back then people were figuring it out. AWESOME!
Lee
8:56 pm on Tuesday, January 10, 2012
Nice try Dan F. I read her letter to the school board and "school choice" or any other noble reason wasn't her motivation, rather entitlement due to her birth name and family lineage.
Lee
12:36 am on Tuesday, January 10, 2012
BTW Jeffrey - I posted on your wall and will reintroduce myself next time I see you as you're right, listening is always a good thing.
Lee
8:59 pm on Tuesday, January 10, 2012
Nice try Dan F. I read her letter to the school board and "school choice" or any other noble reason wasn't her motivation, rather entitlement due to her birth name and family lineage.
Jeffrey Crane
5:31 am on Tuesday, January 10, 2012
Wait until Google earth goes real time. Did you criticize the village when at last years Heritage Fest they placed several portable cameras within the crowd to watch you and your kids? At work there are cameras everywhere, even in the elevators. Numerous homes in Hinsdale have them. Big brother is watching your every move and yet I cannot have them for our own personal security. If anyone else wishes to install them, you have my blessing. If you want to carry a gun, you have my blessing. Yes, I am against the ridiculous gun legislation here in Illinois. People walk around with their iPhones and record constantly and place them on Youtube. Should they be confiscated? Trust me I do not sit and stare my cameras all day long. Life today, unfortunately, is about deterrence. If our wonderful government wishes to disarm us and leave us helpless, then other measures must be taken. And yes, again unfortunately, you may have to deter your neighbors from causing harm as well. This used to be America, it is slowly losing its uniqueness in the world. That's my speech, that's the reality, that's my explanation and that's the truth if you so choose to believe it. Now back to politics, yuck!
PAUL C.
6:17 am on Tuesday, January 10, 2012
Dan F thanks for pointing out additional facts on Ron's voting record last night. I don't know how black and white it can be for the voters. I am sure the Thomas's and Frank's will continue to paint Ron as a fiscal conservative and that is fine. We have the facts and they will not go away no matter what they believe and say. Ron will have to answer for these votes including his "YES" vote to repeal the death penalty which is little more serious than sueing District 99. I guess that lawsuit really did not effect her present satus that came through citizens votes from not only DG but the surrounding suburbs that feed into District 99 schools including Westmont, Darien and Woodridge. Ponder that fact Lee. This election is about more than a neighborhood property disagreement (which I personally didn't know anything about until about a week ago) or a lawsuit against District 99! It's about who will represent my concerns about the laws and tax structure that will live in Illinois and District 81. I am convinced Debbie is up to the task to represent me in Springfield. I already know what Ron has done in his positions as commissioner, mayor and appointed senator and I have seen enough. The voting record is crystal clear. I plan to stay on the facts and the facts can be and will be a bitter pill for the followers to swallow. There are many of us out here who will continue to focus on this record. Have a great day all. I am exiting this arena. Not much more i can say!
Scott Theisen
6:47 am on Tuesday, January 10, 2012
Lee...very commendable. Jeffrey...we agree on a number of issues with regard to this states awful financial condition and its overreaching laws. There's very few in the IL House who get that and are willing to fight it.
Jeffrey Crane
6:55 am on Tuesday, January 10, 2012
AC,
What is your opinion about buying condos as investment/rental property in the area. I calculate with cash purchases better than a 10% cap rate of return. Rents are strong in this area as well.
AC
9:30 am on Tuesday, January 10, 2012
Lee,
If you don't like being on camera walk down a different street.
There are many in the area.
Jeffrey is strong enough not to pick his family up and go live somewhere else,considering all the other life issues in a daily basis.
Home is suppose to be our safehaven. Maybe you should spend more time in church and learn what the Lord has told us about how to treat others.
Why would a lawyer take a case that he couldn't win?
Lee followers like yourself is why this country is in the shape we are in.
Spend your quality time trying to get funding to replace your brick streets instead of intimidating your neighbors.
Jeff it's time for you to have that backyard party now that you have the space.
Mark Thoman
12:17 pm on Tuesday, January 10, 2012
This is an interesting and unfortunate thread. Frank Canzolino (sp, probably, sorry Frank) talks about ad hominems in the comments section of the post he wrote. I've blogged about them before; we've seen plenty of that in DG politics, and now here we go again.
How did this devolve into a tit-for-tat about commenters and residents? That's a rhetorical question.
Maybe a deep breath and a step back is in order. The message is fair game. The voting records are fair game. Personally attacking each other is not. I know for a fact Deb Boyle and Ron Sandack both DON'T want that, they both want campaigns based on their records, on facts, and not on ad hominem attacks on supporters.
Frank Canzolino
4:17 pm on Tuesday, January 10, 2012
;-{)>
Lee
12:26 pm on Tuesday, January 10, 2012
I agree Mark.
Robert Bykowski
1:31 pm on Tuesday, January 10, 2012
Hey All,
I received numerous emails today from various people taking exception to comments made by a variety of people. I've tried to clean up the thread as best I can and remove items that stray from topic, and I hope everyone will just scale it back a little bit and stick to the subject of the thread.
I would like everyone to be able to comment and enjoy commenting, so please, no more comments about cameras and signs and cranes and sandacks (beyond voting records) and neighbors and vendettas and numerous links to a blog that hasn't been updated since 2009 about boyle suing the district (posting it once in a thread is enough...people see it, it doesn't need to be posted over and over) and all other matter of off-topic, personal blah blah blah blah. The horse is dead, quit beating him.
Thanks.
Lee
2:30 pm on Tuesday, January 10, 2012
Hi Robert - I totally agree but fair warning... If I see the Cranes and others explicitly or implicitly posting about our motivation for supporting Ron, their past as well as Debbie Boyle's will be fair game to respond. I'm sick and tired of reading them bashing him every week. I comments on their motivation to do so and they run to you the moderator like children. Figures.
If that's the case, Politics 101 and 102 should be taken down as well, as it's not a reflection of record, rather a missive mocking public figure Ron Sandack which is deplorable.
Don Jankowski
1:45 pm on Tuesday, January 10, 2012
Thank you Robert
Frank N. Claro
1:46 pm on Tuesday, January 10, 2012
Paul & Dan,
Each of you state you have issues with Sandack on the death penalty & taxes. These are important issues. Also, one of you brought up the term, "Fiscal Conservative" - certainly an important label to receive in a GOP primary.
I would like to talk about these topics with you.
IL hadn't had the death penalty for 10yrs. There was a moratorium. During these 10yrs, violent crime decreased. Moreover, credible research fully indicates the DP has no affect on rate of violent crime. ASA Alvarez erred in her logic.
Since 1977, IL executed 12 people at a cost of +$100MILLION per yr. That's a lot of money. What has been the return? How does this meet the standards for a fiscal conservative? Would a real fiscal conservative approve of such a large expense that has been proved around the globe to have no positive outcome?
Please...let's talk about this.
I look forward to hearing back from you both with direct & logical answers. I will then be happy to discuss the taxing issues.
Jim Pokin
2:14 pm on Tuesday, January 10, 2012
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Jim Hankes
9:51 pm on Tuesday, January 10, 2012
This may be a silly question...but if you want your children to attend a particular high school in town, wouldn't you buy a house within that school's boundary lines?
Patrick Murphy
10:40 pm on Tuesday, January 10, 2012
If your a nobody not a somebody then yes.. :)
PAUL C.
10:04 pm on Tuesday, January 10, 2012
I just have one last question: Why would a state senator who is a lawyer get involved in a local dispute amongst neighbors? I would personally (if in Ron's shoes) stay far away from the dispute and possibly recommend a lawyer to handle the dispute. This is just what I would have done. Possibly (and I am saying possibly) Ron thought his position as senator would influence the judge. If so ( and I am saying if so) this is a not an example of wise judgement in my opinion. Maybe Ron might want to address why he even chose to get involved in this matter.
Patrick Murphy
10:44 pm on Tuesday, January 10, 2012
You nailed it with two " Ifs" and an " possibly"